Gilmore Girls' Kelly Bishop Reacts to Criticism of Rory's Trajectory

Gilmore Girls' Kelly Bishop Reacts to Criticism of Rory's Trajectory

Originally appeared on E! Online

Remember when Rory Gilmore was an aspiring overseas correspondent, valedictorian of her prestigious private school, and as her frenemy Paris Geller put it, looked like “little birds help you get dressed in the morning”?

Yup, so does Kelly Bishop, the Gilmore Girls star who famously portrayed Rory’s no-nonsense grandmother Emily Gilmore on the beloved series. And the 80-year-old admits she’s still surprised by the turn her onscreen granddaughter (played by Alexis Bledel) took on the series.

“I think that it would have been nicer if she had stayed truer to herself,” Bishop mused in an exclusive interview with E! News. “Because I remember early on—she was a guest, I don’t know how they got all those good guests—but Christiane Amanpour, that was her idol. And I would have liked to have seen her stick a little bit closer to that.”

Instead, Rory went on to famously break up a marriage, steal a yacht, drop out of Yale, partake in an affair with her engaged ex, dismiss job interviews as beneath her, and—in a shocking final moment of the 2016 Netflix reboot—revealed her surprise pregnancy (by Logan or the Wookie, who’s to say?).

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But despite her qualms with the youngest Gilmore’s story, Kelly, whose memoir The Third Gilmore Girl comes out Sept. 17, noted that it wasn’t necessarily unrealistic.

Kelly Bishop, Alexis Bledel, and Lauren Graham
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“On the other hand, here is a very protected young woman in a small town at a private school, the whole thing,” the New York-based actress said. “So she’s going to get out there in the newspaper world and she’s going to find a lot of other situations that might be curious for her to explore. Maybe sometimes her judgement wasn’t so good, because she was smart, but she was not terribly sophisticated. So, I think that might be how she got herself into sort of awkward situations.”

As Kelly teased of the final line of the reboot, “I don’t know what happened with Rory. And she says, ‘I’m pregnant.’ Hmm, I wonder who?”

Does this mean that more episodes are on the way to clear up that question? Sorry to burst your Firelight Festival balloon, but it’s probably not worth holding your breath.

“I just think that realistically, it’s probably closed,” Kelly said of the Gilmore Girls chapter. “I would love to see it revisited again just bring us as our characters as our ages and see where we’ve got.”

Kelly Bishop, Alexis Bledel, Lauren Graham, Scott Patterson
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But—with the passing of Ed Hermann, who played Emily's husband Richard Gilmore—she noted, the main four would need to be on board: “You’d have to collect together Emily and Rory and Lorelai and Luke.”

Noting the cast’s busy schedules, Kelly, admitted, “It could happen. But I just don’t think it’s likely, frankly.”

And while new episodes aren’t on the horizon, that doesn’t mean the cast doesn’t occasionally get together.

The Friday Night Dinner hostess with the mostess shared that she still meets up with show creator Amy Sherman-Palladino and her on-screen daughter Lauren Graham (Lorelai Gilmore) as often as possible, for what are sure to be the most riveting lunches anyone who has ever graced the halls of Luke’s Diner could have experienced.

Lauren Graham and Kelly Bishop
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“My favorite lunch in the city—and we don’t do it nearly often enough—is Amy Sherman Palladino and Lauren and me, the three of us,” Kelly dished. “Just sit and have a really long lunch and just gab all over the place.”

Perhaps a future topic of conversation could be the celebrated stage and screen actress’ memoir The Third Gilmore Girl, which sees her offer a peek into her seven seasons on the hit mother-daughter series as well as her impressive life and career as a dancer, on the Broadway stage, as the mom of Baby (Jennifer Grey) in Dirty Dancing, and much more.

And though she frequently distances herself from her high society character, Kelly doesn’t view Emily as a villain.

“I think that she’s a complex person. I don’t think that she’s mean,” the veteran actress said of Emily. “But she’s really very severe in so many ways. She’s not sympathetic to me as a character, but she wouldn’t be sympathetic with other people. She would protect her family and her girls and her status quo and all of that, but she’s not warm and fuzzy at all. So, yeah, she’s not at all like me. We have very little in common, very little.”

Emily Gilmore, Kelly Bishop
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But that doesn’t mean that playing the DAR darling wasn’t fun.

Her favorite episode, "is what I call the Tennessee Williams episode where Emily finds out that Richard’s mother has written him a letter the night before the wedding begging him not to marry Emily,” Kelly recalled. “And that just sets Emily off into the stratosphere. She sits around in caftans drinking all day, very un-Emily-like, so that was great fun to play. Amy always managed to give me stuff to do that was fun, that was interesting.”

And now that she’s putting her memoir out into the world, Kelly really only wants to be known for one thing.

"What I’d really like to be remembered for is a working actor, like every time you turn around, she’s in something else,” she mused. “That’s something that I thought I would love to be. Not a star, not a celebrity, not a this, not a that, just a working actor. And that’s what I’ve gained out of it.”

The Third Gilmore Girl: A Memoir by Kelly Bishop is out Sept. 17.

For more surprising secrets from Gilmore Girls, read on.

<p>1. The show's fictional Stars Hollow—which has gone on to become one of TV's most beloved settings—was inspired by <strong>Amy Sherman-Palladino</strong>'s unexpected visit to Washington, Conn. Charmed by the people she met, traditions she witnessed and the inn she stayed at, she left the small town with the concept for the series—including some of the pilot's dialogue.</p> <p>"If I can make people feel this much of what I felt walking around this fairy town," Sherman-Palladino told <a href="https://www.deseret.com/2001/2/22/19571008/visit-to-tiny-town-led-to-show-idea" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Deseret News;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Deseret News</a>, "I thought that would be wonderful."</p> <p>2. <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/alexis_bledel" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Alexis Bledel;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Alexis Bledel</strong></a> had only one uncredited acting role on her resume and was a student at New York University when she auditioned for Rory.</p> <p>"I was very sick, I was a student at NYU, and they kept calling me back up to audition," Bledel recalled during an appearance on <em>Late Night with Seth Meyers</em>. "I think I went, like, six times. Oddly, I wasn't a very seasoned actor at all. I didn't know the process. I grew a tad bit impatient. I had a little attitude and our boss really liked that a lot. She was like, 'That's our girl!' I was like, 'Are you guys going to bring me back again?' and she was like, 'I like that, that's perfect.'"</p>


<p>3. <em>Gilmore Girls</em> without <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/lauren_graham" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Lauren Graham;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Lauren Graham </strong></a>as Lorelai? Unimaginable, right? But it almost happened.</p> <p>"When I got the script for the<em> Gilmore Girls</em> pilot," Graham wrote in her 2016 book, T<em>alking As Fast As I Can: From Gilmore Girls to Gilmore Girls (and Everything in Between)</em>. "I was in New York, staying in a friend's studio apartment, waiting to hear if the series I just completed for NBC —<strong> Don Rooses</strong>'<em> M.Y.O.B</em>.—was going to be picked up for a second season or canceled."</p> <p>Fortunately for us,<em> M.Y.O.B.</em> was not picked up, allowing Graham to play the fast-talking lead, which was also good for any other actress in consideration for the part.</p> <p>"There's a sort of manic recognition that happens very rarely when I read something that I want so much that I go briefly but totally bonkers," she explained of her connection to the character after reading the script. "That feeling is a combination of 'Hello, old friend,' meets EVERYONE GET OUT OF MY WAY SHE'S ALL MINE."</p>


<p>4. <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1272056/gilmore-girls-scott-patterson-reveals-why-he-refused-to-watch-the-iconic-series-until-now" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Scott Paterson;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Scott Paterson</strong></a> was the only actor to audition for Luke, winning over the casting directors immediately with his charming yet curmudgeonly take on the diner owner and Lorelai's future husband.</p> <p>"Amy said, 'I don't need to see anyone else," casting director <strong>Jill Anthony</strong> told <em>Vanity Fair</em>. "'He's 100 percent it.'"</p> <p>But Paterson never thought he was going to sport Luke's signature hat and flannel shirts. </p> <p>"I had three auditions that day, and this was the second one," the actor detailed to <a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/gilmore-girls-star-scott-patterson-auren-graham-chemistry" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Glamour;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><em>Glamour</em></a>. "I had prepared one scene, but I was supposed to have prepared two. So I went in and I did my thing. I didn't care anymore...I knew I wasn't going to get [<em>Gilmore Girls</em>]. The script was too good. The pilot script was so good; they were going to offer it to stars, so what was I wasting my time for? I'm late for this other [audition], I'll probably get a ticket [outside], so can I get out of here, please?"</p>


<p>5. Before<strong> <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/jared_padalecki" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Jared Padalecki;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Jared Padalecki</a></strong> could land his starring role as Rory's first love Dean Forester, two other Canadian actors had to be fired. Why? The character had been altered to be less "alternative," Anthony explained to <em>Vanity Fair.</em></p> <p>6. <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/ryan_gosling" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Ryan Gosling;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Ryan Gosling</strong></a> and<strong> <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/chris_pine" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Chris Pine;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Chris Pine</a></strong> both auditioned for the series. Gosling was brought in to read for a small part, with casting director <strong>Jami Rudofsky</strong> admitting at the 2015 ATX TV Festival that his audition fell—gasp!—flat.</p> <p>Pine, meanwhile, revealed his father, actor <strong>Robert Pine</strong>, had secured him an audition (his first professional one), though he couldn't remember for which part. As he said in a <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUPG0I2JSU&feature=emb_title" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:W Magazine;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">W Magazine</a></em> video, "I dunno, maybe a boyfriend."</p>


<p>7. While <strong><a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/melissa_mccarthy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Melissa McCarthy;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Melissa McCarthy</a> </strong>went on to become one of the biggest comedy stars in Hollywood, Sherman-Palladino revealed she "had to fight" to cast the actress as the lovable and kooky chef Sookie. <br><br>"They weren't sure. It wasn't that people didn't like her, but she was a different energy. She was a different kind of chick," Sherman-Palladino explained during the cast's reunion panel at 2015 ATX TV Festival. "And the part was just written for a woman, There was no body type, there was nothing specific about it. I was like, 'I need someone funny who could really act.'"<br><br>And while Sherman-Palladino knew from the minute McCarthy walked in the door that she was the perfect person for the role, she said, "It was a tricky sell. And it took awhile…everyone came around, but it took a few shows."</p>


<p>8. In the pilot, Sookie was played by <a href="https://www.eonline.com/videos/2300015683995/alex-borstein-reveals-the-worst-advice-shes-received-in-her-career" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Alex Borstein;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Alex Borstein</strong></a>, but she had to drop out of the role because of her obligations to <em>MADtv</em>. She would take on small recurring roles later in the series as a harpist and stylist. Sherman-Palladino would later cast Borstein in <em>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</em>, the actress going on to win two Emmys for her work on the Amazon comedy. <br><br>9.<strong> Jackson Douglas</strong>, Borstein's then-husband, however, landed a more permanent role on <em>Gilmore Girls</em> after Sherman-Palladino wrote the role of Sookie's farmer love interest Jackson with him in mind. Meant to only be in a few episodes, his chemistry with McCarthy landed him a seven-season stay.</p>


<p>10. <strong>Liza Weil</strong> originally auditioned for Rory, and while producers were impressed, they knew she wasn't the right fit.<br><br>"I got a call and they were like, 'They really liked you but it wasn't quite right. But if [the show is picked up] maybe they'll find something for you to do,'" Weil recalled during the ATX Festival panel. "I thought that was probably the end of it."<br><br>As it turns out, they didn't just find something, they created something for Weil to do, writing the role of Paris, Rory's foe-turned-friend, specifically for her. And while Paris went on to become a fan-favorite, Weil was initially unsure about the prickly part.</p> <p>"The younger version of myself was really freaked out that that's what they wrote," the <em>How to Get Away With Murder</em> star joked. "I couldn't fathom that they would think that they could do that! But now I think it's really flattering and I'm really glad."</p>


<p>11. Graham and Bledel's chemistry? A total stroke of luck as the two stars didn't meet until their first day on set. And Bledel was so new to acting that Graham would have to grab her onscreen daughter's arm to make sure she hit her marks. <br><br>"People are like, 'You have such great chemistry,'" Graham joked on <em>Today</em>. "And I'm like, ‘I'm mauling her. That's why.'"</p> <p>12. Unlike most other actors, Graham and Bledel really ate most of the food Lorelai and Rory consumed during the series, which, any fan knows, was<em> a lot</em>.<br><br>"It really bothers me when actors don't eat the food that's in the scene," Bledel explained on the <em>Today</em> show. But after several takes and upset stomachs, Graham says they eventually relied on spit buckets to get them through it.</p>


<p>13. Throughout the series' run, Bledel dated two of her main onscreen boyfriends IRL, according to casting director <strong>Mara Casey</strong>.</p> <p>"We did have a joke about casting all of Alexis' [real-life] boyfriends," she revealed to <em><a href="https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/gilmore-girls-netflix-118978/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Life & Style;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Life & Style</a></em> in 2016. "She dated Jared and <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/milo_ventimiglia" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Milo [Ventimiglia];elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><strong>Milo</strong> [<strong>Ventimiglia</strong>]</a>. And she also dated a young New York actor named <strong>Chris Heuisler</strong>, who played a guest role. Real sweet kid."</p> <p>14. While <strong>Sean Gunn</strong> initially was introduced as Stars Hollow's DSL installer Mick, he would eventually become a series regular as Kirk, who would have a different odd job in every episode. So why the name change? Gunn <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/10/kirk-and-luke-gilmore-girls-real-power-couple" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:revealed;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">revealed</a> Sherman-Palladino had simply forgotten he already had a name.</p>


<p>15. The WB was interested in a spinoff starring Ventimiglia, with the season three episode "Here Comes the Son" serving as a backdoor pilot for the new series. <em>Windward Circle</em> would've centered on Jess' life in Venice Beach, Calif., but the series ultimately didn't go forward due to budget concerns. </p> <p>16. As <em>Gilmore Girls</em> was ending its seventh season, there were talks of continuing to follow Rory in her adult life after Graham decided she was not going to return. </p> <p>"I did formally say at one point, 'I'm not coming back,'" Graham revealed to <a href="https://www.tvguide.com/news/lauren-grahams-final-8429/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:TV Guide;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">TV Guide</a>. "Then they thought, 'Well, can we do it with just Alexis?' I don't want to speak for her, but we both went back and forth. Ultimately, neither of us wanted to do it without the other one."</p> <p>She continued, "They were trying to think of everything. There was a time when we thought maybe I would produce and not be on the show in the same capacity."</p>


<p>17. After contract negotiations stalled, Stars Hollow was rocked when it was announced the Sherman-Palladino and husband <strong>Daniel</strong> <strong>Palladino</strong> would not be returning for the seventh (and ultimately final) season.</p> <p>"The short answer really is that we just could not come to terms with the studio for a new contract," Palladino told <em><a href="https://www.tvguide.com/news/team-palladino-interview-8523/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:TV Guide;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">TV Guide</a></em> at the time, with Sherman-Palladino adding they "tried" to get a multi-year deal.</p> <p>"Deals have options," she explained. "There are all sorts of things that go into deals. What we were asking for was not crazy. It was not insane. It was not the moon. It was really about, frankly, protecting the show."</p> <p>While the couple had hired their replacement, <strong>Dave Rosenthal</strong>, Sherman-Palladino admitted passing over the reigns was "horrifying. It's like a freaking nightmare."</p> <p>And she's since revealed she's never watched the final season.</p>


<p>18. For years, there were rumors of tension on set between Paterson and Graham, despite their undeniable chemistry as Luke and Lorelai. The couple's rabid fanbase believed it was the reason their favorite pair broke up in a polarizing season six storyline, but Graham denied those claims in an interview with <em><a href="https://www.tvguide.com/news/lauren-grahams-final-8429/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:TV Guide;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">TV Guide</a></em> after the series ended.</p> <p>"Yes, it was overblown," she said, though she admitted she was "closer" to <strong>David Sutcliffe</strong>, who played Rory's father Christopher. "I always thought that maybe people thought I was trying to give him some sort of advantage because we're friends. But that's not it."</p> <p>And Graham was just as disappointed and frustrated as the fans were with how Luke and Lorelai's relationship ended on an ambiguous note in the series' original run.</p> <p>"I just love the tension between [Luke and Lorelai] so much…For me, it didn't end in a satisfying way," she explained to <a href="https://www.tvguide.com/news/lauren-grahams-final-8429/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:TV Guide;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "><em>TV Guide</em></a>. "We weren't sure it was the end. Amy wasn't with us in the last season. I can't answer it because it didn't really end. It didn't resolve satisfactorily."</p>


<p>19. Because of her exit from the series after season six, the show did not end the way Sherman-Palladino originally intended to. And she wasn't shy about voicing that, teasing fans for years with the lore of the <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/808755/the-lore-of-gilmore-girls-final-four-words" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:"last four words";elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">"last four words"</a> she had planned to end the Gilmore women's run with. </p> <p>Almost every interview with the Palladinos in the years that followed included a question about the mythical words, though they never spilled any details for a hopeful reason. "I don't want to totally say [what my ideas were]," Sherman-Palladino told <em>Entertainment Weekly</em>, because if there is a movie in the making, I'm going to be basically delving back into where I left off, and then I'm kind of [screwed]."</p> <p>And when the Netflix revival was announced in 2016, it was confirmed that the four-episode miniseries would end with the long-awaited four words. <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/810947/gilmore-girls-final-four-words-finally-revealed-in-a-year-in-the-life-did-they-live-up-to-the-hype" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Which you can read all about right here;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Which you can read all about right here</a>. (Yes, they were worth the wait.) </p>


<p>20. Cast as Lorelai's waspy-but-loving parents Richard and Emily Gilmore, <strong>Edward Herrmann </strong>and<strong> Kelly Bishop</strong> became quite close and his spouse<strong> Star Herrmann </strong>even referred to Bishop as his "second wife." Herrmann died in 2014<a href="https://www.eonline.com/ca/news/610464/edward-herrmann-gilmore-girls-star-dead-at-71-after-battle-with-brain-cancer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:at the age of 71;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link "> at the age of 71</a> after a battle with brain cancer. In the weeks just before he passed, his wife invited Bishop to visit with him.</p> <p>"She was the only person we had come," she told <em><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/11/gilmore-girls-how-two-families-said-good-bye-to-edward-hermann" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:Vanity Fair;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">Vanity Fair</a></em>. "It was important to him, and it was important to her."</p> <p>Bishop called the invitation "wonderful and sad and surprising." At the cast's reunion panel at the ATX TV Festival, a chair was left open on the stage in honor of Herrmann.</p>