Twitter calls viral advice column job shaming and a 'discriminatory, awful idea'
A hiring manager’s “simple rule” for job seekers highlighted an invisible bias, according to the red-hot resistance on Twitter.
“Hey, I wrote something!” tweeted Jessica Liebman, the executive managing editor of Business Insider on Friday. “I’ve been hiring people for 10 years, and I still swear by a simple rule: If someone doesn’t send a thank you email, don’t hire them.”
Hey, I wrote something! … I’ve been hiring people for 10 years, and I still swear by a simple rule: If someone doesn’t send a thank you email, don’t hire them. https://t.co/NWXB1ozNgr
— Jessica Liebman (@jessicaliebman) April 5, 2019
In Liebman’s article, she says thank-you emails are more than a formality — they’re a barometer of a candidate’s enthusiasm for the job.
It signals that the person wants the job — or rather, no thank-you email signals the person probably doesn’t want the job. The handful of times we’ve moved forward with a candidate despite not receiving a thank you, we’ve been ghosted, or the offer we make is ultimately rejected. A few times, the offer is accepted, but the person pulls out before their start date or leaves after a few months. …
How someone presents in interviews might not translate to effectiveness in the role. While sending a thank-you note doesn’t necessarily guarantee the person will be a good hire, it gives you the tiniest bit more data: The candidate is eager, organized, and well mannered enough to send the note. It shows resourcefulness, too, because the candidate often has to hunt down an email address the interviewer never gave them. At Insider Inc., we look to hire ‘good eggs.’ The thank-you email is a mark for the good-egg column.
Many responded to Liebman saying her rule sustains a fear culture between job seekers and managers.
It’s not about whether they know or not, requiring “thank you’s” reflects an outdated view that you’re doing them a favor by considering them for a job…in fact, you owe candidates your appreciation for them considering your job.
— T. Koirtyohann, SPHR (@HRwhale) April 6, 2019
As well as the wonderful message it sends to anyone struggling with communication in any way. Isolation, depression, anxiety, autism, … There are millions of affected people who might do their best in all aspects, but who don't have the natural habit to send a thank you note.
— Sébastien Vercammen (@sebvercammen) April 5, 2019
This is an arbitrary bit of gatekeeping that is both culture- and generation-specific. In doing this you’re also gong to skew results to people who act and think like you, thereby decreasing intellectual diversity on the team. A thank you is classy, but not a disqualifier.
— Scott Hanselman (@shanselman) April 6, 2019
I usually scroll by tweets like this but bc I just did so many interviews I can’t. I can’t in good conscience send thank you letters to companies that waste my life in blocks of 5 hours for interviews they provide no feedback for or let me know if I get the job for that matter
— Wembley G. Leach, Jr. (@wembleyleach) April 7, 2019
Since we're so concerned about Emily Post manners in the hiring process, I wonder if the author sends a personal note, or any communication at all, to the people she decides not to hire after a long and frustrating application and interview process.
— I'm not sure (@newsturbater) April 6, 2019
I send a handwritten note to everyone I interview after the hiring decision is made to thank them for taking the time to come interview
— JusticeRhondaWood (@JudgeRhondaWood) April 7, 2019
when was the last time a report told you that you were wrong and you agreed with them and changed course?
— EricaJoy (@EricaJoy) April 6, 2019
You…You actually write down that seven years ago people told you this was a discriminatory awful idea and you're STILL proud of it, seven years later?
— Ana Mardoll (@AnaMardoll) April 6, 2019
These employees will be creating value for your company, it’s you that should be thankful. No wonder people leave after few months, sounds like a toxic work environment where only the yay sayers are accepted
— Marijam Did?galvyt? (@marijamdid) April 5, 2019
so do you send emails to every applicant who interviews to let them know that they're not moving forward? I'm not even asking you to reject every application you receive, just anyone who you talk to. curious.
— Caryn Rose (@carynrose) April 6, 2019
Many hiring managers, including a Supreme Court justice, disagreed with Liebman’s technique.
I send a handwritten note to everyone I interview after the hiring decision is made to thank them for taking the time to come interview
— JusticeRhondaWood (@JudgeRhondaWood) April 7, 2019
yeahhh.
okay.
i've been hiring people for 15 years, and i think that's an awful and entitled rule.
— needlessly obscenity-laced (@randileeharper) April 6, 2019
Hello. I’ve been hiring people for 33 years. I don’t have clichè notions about how they should beg for my attention after an interview. More interested in potential than adherence to an archaic social hierarchy.
— Jim V.o.R. (@JimYoull) April 8, 2019
As a 30 year hiring director I’ve trained hiring managers such as yourself to get over themselves and not put up false/selfish/unknown roadblocks that disqualifies talented people to satisfy their own egos.
— Dear Dean Father of Teen (@DearDean22) April 8, 2019
Alison Green, the author of the popular “Ask a Manager” work-advice website and author of the book of the same name, tweeted, “Hard disagree. And it’ll discriminate against candidates from backgrounds where they don’t get this kind of job search training, which has nothing to do with skills & ability to excel on the job. I like thank-you notes but making them a requirement is a terrible practice.”
Green tells Yahoo Lifestyle, “Requiring a thank-you note highlights this idea that candidates should feel grateful and that managers are gatekeepers.” She adds, “In reality, interviews should be a two-way exploratory conversation in which both sides try to impress each other.”
Thank you emails as a subjective benchmark of a candidates’s enthusiasm or competency can filter out people of different cultures or classes. “People in the U.K., for example, don’t send or receive thank-you notes because it’s seen as pushy,” Green tells Yahoo Lifestyle. “And people from less-advantaged backgrounds tell me they’ve never heard of sending a thank-you note.”
Today, the thank you note is perfunctory and poorly-written, says Green, rather than a quick or meaningful way to clarify interview points or continue a specific conversation. And for corporate roles that traditionally ask candidates to complete large-scale, unpaid projects — and numerous rounds of interviews — the thank-you email could be an invisible hurdle to success.
“Managers should re-consider the old-school biases and cookie-cutter expectations they’re imposing on the hiring process, and instead focus on the true must-have skills and experience for the role,” says Green. “Why should managers require a higher amount of enthusiasm than their return?”
Yahoo Lifestyle reached out to Liebman for comment but did not hear back.
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